Sometimes we’d get into very heated exchanges. There’d be arguments and someone would storm out, people were just on totally different pages. Well, I mean they would’ve set up an interview with some political figure in Delhi and some of us would go and hope that it would somehow be a fruitful meeting that would then lead to something. And others were barely tolerant of even going. You know, why am I going to listen to this bag of hot air? I mean there were very radically different reactions about what the endeavor was. Yeah, he tried to mediate that but he was also watching. This was sort of a lab experiment in education for him. He was watching the subjects.