Bob was powerfully moved by the death of [English Prof.] Charles Samuels, who did kill himself. Bob examined the claims, “What does this mean?” “Is it appropriate?” I asked him if he was going to commit suicide. He wouldn’t answer the question, but he said, “Well, that’s what we’re talking about.” That was a conversation that was lasting months. Bob didn’t exhaust that until he had come to an understanding he thought was authentic, after a conversation with Josie Eusden. Josie said to him, “There is too much left undone. One doesn’t leave one’s work undone.” So Bob began to race his death. The writing he was doing. The teaching. So we had these grand debates. Josie Eusden had the best argument against Bob’s committing suicide.